You make it sound as if we are all supposed to be able to easily metabolise oxalates and those who can’t are somehow “poor” in health or defective. My understanding is that oxalates are unsuitable for everyone and that is why our ancestors devised ways of preparing these foods.

My point – and I did have one – is that chocolate is a fun food, tastes good and gives you a little buzz of joy, so it is okay to enjoy yourselves. But it is incorrect to promote it as having healthful qualities that cannot be found elsewhere. Thank you.

And I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas!

It worked for me 🙂

Yes some people have sensitivities to chocolate or have poor oxalate metabolism but by far and away the research is clear that organic dark chocolate is good for most people. Blessings!

No this isn’t true. Most organic brands are very low in heavy metals. However, chocolate is higher in oxalates and for some people that can be a problem. https://drjockers.com/low-oxalate-diet/

It isn’t a true fast if you are having anything with calories, but for many people they find it easier to be in a calorie restricted state and compress their eating window if they do fat or fat and collagen. Do what you feel the best with! Blessings!

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You and lots of others don’t get cramps? That’s great. We are not all constituted the same way. My point, though, is that chocolate, while health-promoting for some people some of the time, should not be promoted as something good for everyone, all of the time, which has been going on for a long time now with the arrival of paleo/keto/high protein, etc. Here is an article that has (as far as I can tell) no agenda, they just give the facts. People who eat lots of animal products will glom onto the positive aspects of cocoa and ignore everything else, especially the fact that cocoa is addictive + it has psychoactive effects. Apparently the cocoa butter is beneficial.

https://eatgenius.com/chocolate-a-double-edged-sword/

The fact that cocoa is a tropical food is food for thought. Those of us of nontropical genetic backgrounds might want to consider this. However, I recognize that chocolate “tastes good” and we need some fun in our lives as well. My objections were to the presentation of chocolate as a health food.

Indeed, I would say that people who are overmineralized with iron and zinc have an instinctive desire to take chocolate. Those 2 minerals are necessary, but like everything else in the world, there are points of diminishing returns.

I thank you for taking my viewpoint into consideration.

lol I meant sphincter of course
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QUESTION for Dr Jockers:
* With no sweeteners, does this break a fast?
* Are benefits to having an unsweetened cocoa drink with fat and collagen in the morning (say after 13 hours of fasting) to put off eating my first meal a few more hours that way?

I have never heard of this Rita, you could try coconut milk, cacao butter, or maybe grass-fed butter instead.